Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/22/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+= SB 305 OIL AND GAS PRODUCTION TAX TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 305(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 357 STATUTORY REFERENCES TO DISABILITIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 357(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 394 INSURANCE POLICIES IN FOREIGN LANGUAGES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 394(L&C) am Out of Committee
+ HB 400 CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 400(JUD) Out of Committee
+ HB 408 DEFINITION OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT TELECONFERENCED
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     SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 408(JUD)                                                                               
     "An  Act  relating to  the  standard  of proof  required  to                                                               
     terminate   parental   rights   in   child-   in-need-of-aid                                                               
     proceedings; relating to a  healing arts practitioner's duty                                                               
     to report a child adversely  affected by or withdrawing from                                                               
     exposure to  a controlled substance or  alcohol; relating to                                                               
     disclosure of  confidential or privileged  information about                                                               
     certain  children by  the Departments  of Health  and Social                                                               
     Services  and  Administration;  relating to  permanent  fund                                                               
     dividends  paid to  foster  children  and adopted  children;                                                               
     relating  to  child  abuse  or  neglect  investigations  and                                                               
     training;  amending Rule  18, Alaska  Child in  Need of  Aid                                                               
     Rules of Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the first hearing for  this bill in the  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 12:00:23 PM / 12:01:30 PM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA MOSS,  Staff to  Representative John  Coghill, expressed                                                               
support for  the language proposals  of the Department  of Health                                                               
and Social Services.  The original bill, as  introduced on behalf                                                               
of Governor Murkowski,  has been revised. She  read the sectional                                                               
analysis, titled "Family Rights Act  of 2006, SCS CS HB 408(JUD),                                                               
Sectional for Senate Judiciary CS", into the record as follows.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1.  This  section   contains  language  that  would                                                               
     release OCS  [Office of Children's Services]  from providing                                                               
     family support  services when  they can  show the  court, by                                                               
     clear and  convincing evidence, that the  parent or guardian                                                               
     poses substantial risk to a  child, has committed a homicide                                                               
     of a  child, or parent  has taken such actions  as described                                                               
     in  Section  1. This  raises  the  level  of proof  from  "a                                                               
     preponderance of the evidence".  (Requested by Department of                                                               
     Law)                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2.  This  section  raises   the  standard  for  the                                                               
     department  showing  they   have  complied  with  reasonable                                                               
     efforts   to  provide   family  support   services  from   a                                                               
     "preponderance  of   evidence"  to  "clear   and  convincing                                                               
     evidence".   (Requested  by   OCS  language;   Rep.  Coghill                                                               
     legislation-HB 261, 2001)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Moss  stated  that  evidence  indicates  that  the  existing                                                               
standards would not assist certain families.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3. This section is  language clean up to accommodate                                                               
     Section 2 amendments. (Department of Law)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4.  When a public  official or an  employee requests                                                               
     information  from the  department, they  will now  have five                                                               
     working days to respond. (HB 327 - Rep. Chenault)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss explained this language  would resolve a dispute between                                                               
the legislature and the Department of  Law in that it would allow                                                               
OCS to  release information regarding  harm inflicted on  a child                                                               
were the  parent to  make "public  disclosure of  the perpetrator                                                               
being charged  with the  crime or  there has  been a  fatality or                                                               
near fatality of a child". She  recalled an instance in which the                                                               
Department of Law prohibited release of such information.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5. Clarifies the intent of  HB 53 that once a report                                                               
     of harm has  resulted in a parent  making public disclosure,                                                               
     the alleged perpetrator  being charged with a  crime, or has                                                               
     resulted in  fatality or  near fatality of  a child,  OCS is                                                               
     able to  disclose the nature  and validity of any  report of                                                               
     harm  about a  child in  a report  of harm.  (Representative                                                               
     Coghill)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:05:23 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6.  Broadens the department's  ability to  discuss a                                                               
     report  of  harm pertaining  to  not  only children  in  the                                                               
     family or household, but also  children who may be under the                                                               
     care of a  perpetrator in a report  of harm. (Representative                                                               
     Coghill)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7.  Last summer  two  teenagers  were placed  in  a                                                               
     foster home and  the foster parents were  appointed as legal                                                               
     guardians.  The State  released  the  teens' permanent  fund                                                               
     dividends  to the  legal guardians.  The  placement did  not                                                               
     work and  the children  were removed  from the  home without                                                               
     their dividends. Section 6 says  the only way a child's past                                                               
     dividend can be released is if  the child is adopted and has                                                               
     remained adopted for one year,  the child turns eighteen and                                                               
     the PFD's are released by OCS,  the child is returned to the                                                               
     parent(s),  or the  department is  ordered to  do so  by the                                                               
     court. The one-year provision is  put in place because there                                                               
     is a high rate of  adoptions being disturbed. Subsection (c)                                                               
     clarifies this  applies to legal  guardians of  children who                                                               
     have  been in  state  custody, unless  the guardianship  was                                                               
     established  for  an incapacitated  person.  (Representative                                                               
     Coghill)                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8.  This  section  requires  practitioners  of  the                                                               
     healing arts  involved in  the delivery or  care of  a child                                                               
     who  determines  the  child   is  adversely  affected  by  a                                                               
     controlled substance or alcohol  to notify OCS. It clarifies                                                               
     that a "controlled substance"  does not include prescription                                                               
     medication,  but rather  "a  drug,  substance, or  immediate                                                               
     precursor included  in the schedules  set in AS  11.71.140 -                                                               
     11.71.190".                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss noted an amendment was drafted to replace "child" with                                                                 
"infant" in the language of Section 8.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9.  This provision consolidates HB  346 sponsored by                                                               
     Representative  Mark  Neuman  into  HB  408.  The  provision                                                               
     requires  social worker  training to  include constitutional                                                               
     and  statutory rights  of  children  and families,  requires                                                               
     cooperation  by  OCS  with law  enforcement  to  ensure  the                                                               
     possibility of  criminal charges  is not compromised  in the                                                               
     investigation, and  that the alleged perpetrator  be advised                                                               
     of  what the  specific  complaint or  allegation is  without                                                               
     disclosing the identity of the accuser.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10.   Indirect  Court  Rule  change   dealing  with                                                               
     changing "preponderance of  evidence" in Sections 1,  2, & 3                                                               
    to "clear and convincing evidence". (Department of Law)                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11.  Applicability language to clarify  that pending                                                               
     cases  and non-pending  cases still  within  the statute  of                                                               
     limitation  will   have  "clear  and   convincing  evidence"                                                               
     standard applied to them. (Department of Law)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12.  Because Sections 1,  2, &  3 will result  in an                                                               
     Indirect Court Rule Amendment, those  section[s] of the bill                                                               
     will only  take place if  the vote  on Section 9  receives a                                                               
     two-thirds   vote  of   each  house   of  the   legislature.                                                               
     (Department of Law)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13. Immediate effective date clause.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:09:39 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman   referenced  Sec.  47.10.115.   Permanent  fund                                                               
dividend.,  added  by  Section  7  on page  5  of  the  bill.  He                                                               
understood the Permanent Fund dividend  (PFD) was the property of                                                               
the  child, and  asked whether  the child  would have  some legal                                                               
recourse when he or she turned 18.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss  responded that the  issue had not yet  been determined,                                                               
but was under  investigation by the Attorney  General's office in                                                               
Fairbanks.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:10:38 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman realized that parents  often use a child's PFD to                                                               
house, clothe,  and fed the  child. He considered it  a different                                                               
situation when a parent used a child's PFD for unneeded items.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  if Senator  Stedman was  referring to  the                                                               
case of an adopted or foster child.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman affirmed,  and clarified  he was  speaking of  a                                                               
case where a child  had been in foster care for  a period of time                                                               
that  allowed the  foster  care provider  access  to the  child's                                                               
PFDs.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green inquired if a natural  parent would be held to the                                                               
same standard.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman affirmed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green stated  that natural  parents  are not  currently                                                               
held to that standard.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  opined that all  legal guardians should  be able                                                               
to use  a child's PFD  only to meet  basic needs, and  expected a                                                               
court opinion  on that  issue. He supported  the language  in the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  voiced intent to  conclude testimony on  the bill                                                               
and address amendments at a later date.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss clarified that there were no amendments forthcoming.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:13:13 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BEVERLY  SMITH, Christian  Science Committee  on Publication  for                                                               
Alaska,  referred to  a memorandum  from  the organization  dated                                                               
April 22, 2006  [copy on file], and  requested that consideration                                                               
be given to the addition of  language to Section 8. This proposed                                                               
amendment would insert  a new subsection to  AS 47.17.024. Duties                                                               
of practitioners  of the healing  arts., amended by Section  8 on                                                               
page 6, following line 15 to read as follows.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          (c) Nothing in this chapter shall compel a religious                                                                  
     healing   practitioner  to   disclose  information   learned                                                               
     through sacred  communications with a person  seeking his or                                                               
     her  spiritual help  and enjoined  to  be kept  confidential                                                               
     under  the discipline  of  his or  her  church or  religious                                                               
     organization.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Smith  stated  that  this  language  would  allow  Christian                                                               
Science  practitioners  to   maintain  their  religious  customs.                                                               
Certain  communications  between   parishioners  should  be  kept                                                               
confidential.   This  provision   would   also   assure  that   a                                                               
practitioner would  report crimes committed against  a child. She                                                               
additionally supported  the proposed  language change  of "child"                                                               
to "infant".                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:17:19 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked if  the proposed  amendment would  prevent a                                                               
Christian  Science practitioner  from  reporting  knowledge of  a                                                               
child who appeared to be affected by prenatal drug use.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Smith  responded that  practitioners are  primarily concerned                                                               
with  the best  interest of  the child.  They would  have to  use                                                               
their  judgment.  Church doctrine  would  not  prevent them  from                                                               
reporting a child in danger.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  understood  that  the  language  in  bill  would                                                               
address that situation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Smith  concurred. The change  to "infant" from  "child" might                                                               
provide more clear  direction in that instance, as  a child could                                                               
be  "affected"  by a  parent's  alcoholism,  but in  a  different                                                               
manner than an infant with fetal alcohol symptoms.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:18:55 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  furthered  that  the  current  language  proposal                                                               
stated that  the practitioner "cannot  be compelled"  to disclose                                                               
information,  but language  elsewhere  in the  bill stipulates  a                                                               
doctor  "shall report"  evidence of  drug use.  This appeared  to                                                               
leave  practitioners  with  more  discretion  than  doctors  when                                                               
reporting medical observations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:19:25 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green   read  the  current  language   as  follows:  "a                                                               
practitioner  of the  healing arts  involved in  the delivery  or                                                               
care  of  a  child  who  the  practitioner  determines  has  been                                                               
adversely  affected by,  or is  withdrawing from  exposure to,  a                                                               
controlled  substance or  alcohol  shall  immediately notify  the                                                               
nearest office of  the department of the  child's condition". She                                                               
interpreted  the requested  amendment  as  applying to  knowledge                                                               
gained  through a  conversation with  a family.  She likened  the                                                               
confidentiality  afforded   by  the   proposed  amendment   to  a                                                               
psychiatrist's doctor-client privilege.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:20:31 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked for a  definition of  "sacred communication"                                                               
as it appears within the suggested amendment.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Smith   explained   that  because   a   Christian   Science                                                               
practitioner is not technically a  member of the clergy, but acts                                                               
in  that   capacity,  "sacred   communication"  would   apply  to                                                               
conversations between practitioners and  parishioners, as well as                                                               
clergy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Dyson   surmised   the  definition   was   similar   to                                                               
confidential. He commented  that mandatory reporting requirements                                                               
apply to  the medical  field, but  not clergy.  Christian Science                                                               
practitioners were  in the difficult  position of  providing both                                                               
types of services.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Smith agreed,  and desired  to make  the Committee  aware of                                                               
this disconnect in the law.  The proposed amendment would satisfy                                                               
the current requirements in this bill.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:22:43 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY SANDOVAL, Acting Deputy  Commissioner, Office of Children's                                                               
Services,  Department of  Health and  Social Services,  testified                                                               
that the original  intent of this legislation was  to provide for                                                               
compliance with federal  law. A person assisting  in the delivery                                                               
of an  infant must report  if that infant was  adversely affected                                                               
by alcohol  or a controlled  substance. The Department  of Health                                                               
and Social  Services would then  be obligated to  investigate the                                                               
matter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The bill was HELD in Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
RECESS TO CALL OF THE CHAIR 12:24:34 PM / 2:37:11 PM                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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